Ing. Ondřej Čapek

* 1947

  • "The first thing was, the Iraqis decided to invade Iran. They invaded Iran and our colleagues were saying, 'In a week we'll be here, in a fortnight we'll be here, and in three weeks we'll be in Tehran.'" - "Iraqi colleagues?" - "Iraqi colleagues. It didn't work out that way and the strikes started right away. Every day, Iranian aircraft flew in and bombed [Baghdad]." - "You had to go into a shelter?" - "We always had to take cover. Of course, Mr. Tvrzník was a hard-working man and said no one could drive him out of the office, so he worked all the time. We obediently went to the shelter, though. It was in a high-rise building. That's how it went." - "Were you worried, or was it kind of a daily routine? - "Not fear, really; worries, sure. You get used to it. The kids at home were obviously a little scared, so we came up with this thing where we found the strongest wall in the house and said, 'You have to stand by this wall. If something crashes down, this is the only wall that will hold.'"

  • "In 1973, Mr. Tvrzník won a contract for a road project in Kurdistan in northern Iraq, near Suleimaniyah. Part of the project assignment included a topographical survey of the entire route. So a group of twelve people were sent to Iraq at that time." - "How long did that take?" - "Three months. It was from September to December." - "How long approximately was the future route or road?" - "About fifty kilometers, but it was never built, just a part of it is finished." - "Was the company [Pragoprojekt] supposed to build it too?"-"No, it was meant to be built by someone the Iraqis chose." - "Why did they choose you? Did you compete with, say, Western companies, or what was it like then? Or was Iraq more East-oriented?" - "There was of course a lot of competition from Western companies, but Mr. Tvrzník had contacts in Iraq and secured it, maybe also thanks to price."

  • "Then we played both softball and baseball. Our team switched to baseball only sometime in the 1970s, but softball stayed, of course. Even this split completely, later on, but that was only after the revolution in 1989. Softball and baseball ran alongside. Baseball couldn't be played at Letná, it was a bit dangerous, so it was played at the Strahov Stadium, which wasn't used at all. We got there somehow. Then the fields started to be built on rented football pitches, and that's where it was played. Softball could be played on a larger scale because it's a smaller game." - "I just read in my notes for the taping of my interview with you that you were named the best pitcher in Czechoslovakia sometime in the sixties. Could you elaborate on when and how that was, or if you were a member of the winning team?" - "We as the Black Horses would win many softball and baseball games for a long time and we were great. I only started pitching baseball; I never pitched softball. I was one of the top three or four guys here in our country, you could say even on the national level because, thanks to Ivan Běták and Mirek Vojtíšek who joined us - he was a graduate of the college of physical education and sports and a passionate baseball player who started coaching us - we began rising to a somewhat higher level. Then we also got to the point where we were in contact with the Italians, the Dutch and the Swedes, and we played international games, which we lost most of the time. But we can be proud of the fact that our successors already made it to the top."

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I designed roads in Iraq. My job took me to war zones

Ondřej Čapek in 1969
Ondřej Čapek in 1969
zdroj: Witness's archive

Ondřej Čapek was born in Prague on 13 May 1946. Since the sixties, he was active in softball and baseball, playing for the Black Horses club. He studied at the Faculty of Civil Engineering of the Czech Technical University from 1965 to 1970, getting an engineering degree. He married Jelena Doubková in 1970 and they raised two children. In 1971 he joined the state enterprise Pragoprojekt that specialised in designing transport infrastructure. Two years later, he was sent on his first business trip to Iraq at a time when the country was experiencing an armed uprising of the Kurds against the Iraqi government. Between 1979 and 1981, on his second secondment in Iraq, the Iraq-Iran war broke out and he experienced the bombing of Baghdad. Between 1989 and 1990, he was in Iraq again on his secondment. However, he had to be evacuated early due to the escalating situation in the Persian Gulf. Throughout his life, he worked as a civil engineer. He was living in Prague at the time of filming.