Zvonimir Radolović

-"...you came in Koper? - Yes, police was there, a.. police was to the border and in Koper. - You have been in prison in Koper? - Yes, yes, was there maybe two days, got the sentence of 20 days by their judge to spent in prison…after they took us to … only me ..in Rijeka, Via Roma, to this prison and from there I think a day after return me back, sleep over and then turn me back to Pula. By bus, I had a guard with me, he said:” Do not make any stupid things, see, I have handcuffs”. “No, I won´t..” and wen came to the bus, I found my niece, and ask a police officer can I give her a clothes to take it home as I still had a winter clothes, no..and..”Yees, no problem!” and no one new that I was going to prison. And passing through Pula I have met, like, from bus station till came to prison, a lot of people. “Where are you going?” “To prison”. “What will you do in prison?” Hahaha… this police officer was standing behind me so no one new, and … o, thinking, these are a funny stories… - How much time you spent in pula prison? - Thinking 17-18 days. Not sure, but .. was for 17 days and..(…) Then my sister use to come every morning and bring me biscuits, and this I split away with others who use to stay longer in prison like a year or so. This was a good “school”: you see, like, in jail I was glad to be there. Because I saw what is going on there and what can be done. You have everything. First day in prison one man said to me:”Tonight you will burn up”. New him from earlier from the city. Hhhh … he was, really he was a bandit, he was sentenced for 7 years. “Tonight you will burn up.” “O”, I said “ you will too”. “O no, no, just joking”, the same thing happened with some other man so he.. they have to placed him to the gate(??).. So, always, you know, you can learn something good and bad. Telling you I never regret for being in .. in prison but I .. disappointed my father. As my father did not tell me anything at the beginning but after a few months, said: “You are the first from Radolović family, from Sansovih who was in prison”. “No one was in prison ever”. “Someone had to go eventually”. Yes. - When came out of the prison what did you do? - Then we went to work, on .. on this smasher, up and then we destroyed this … history..of Histri and others..how I said before.. Illyrians. Yes. After, when finished we waited to get payed and then in the mean time I got a passport, they gave it to me. And.. and then we go…other four of us went to Trieste and today two of them are in France, one came back home, and one in Australia . - Do you remember with whom did you go next time? - We went by bus to Trieste. - This mean you go directly? - Yes, yes. - Two of them went two days.. a day before, and we went two days later. - At the border didn´t stopped you? - No… we had passports.."

-"We went to the city.. to town and there we slept a little bit, and did not knew, when woke up noticed that we slept at the cemetery… hahaha… in Trieste, yes. So here at the cemetery in Trieste fell a sleep and after continue our way, until we run into police to.. then apply there and they … do not know, can´t remember did they drove us or … or they just said to us, to go to … to the camp, in Padriciano, that was … it was a village if you know where it is, now it is Area di servizio and a large research was there, yes …and here inside was a camp, but maybe a year or two before a camp was in San Sabbo… in San Sabbo was this camp and.. yes..and.. I was not in San Sabbo camp but was in Padriciani. - Then, when came to Padriciano, to the camp, what happened then? - Nothing, then you pass medical check ups, they give you..(matricolu??), these older people were very fast moved to .. I mean, got visa for Sveden and for … for … for Sveden and Australia, they ask you where you want to go, if you have someone there, or a family, do you have … brothers or anyone .. and me .. I was underage and me .. they return me home. But return me when I was already adult. Hehehehehe… as I was .. I was born on May 29th and they return me … on June 6th .. - It means you spent a lot of time in…? - A month we were down, yes. Some of them were for 4-5 months, I know a man from Marčana, he was there … for about a year..yes.. a long time people waited to go… in depend where they wanted to leave, but if wanted to go to Sveden or Canada, than the procedure was faster, but for America than it was a little longer and difficult. - Can you please tell me, have you been scared? - - You want to say that you, Đani Buić i Berto Korba, went that first time, and … have you been scared at all? What did you expect? - When young there is no fear or intelligence.. - You just went? - .. people say this as an old saying. No fear. - Probably it is something.. I don´t know, but when was questioning, they .. they didn´t return people back home? - No, no. They return me back as I was underage. - You have been return as you was minor? - One psychologist was questioning me .. thinking, but also a translator was present, that man..o remember him well, had 182 kg, when he use to sit in a car …. pffff was a sound like this…."