Miloš Jakac

-".. the police officers were there to controll the border. The army, was on a patrol. We use to stand like this on the road and watching the hill we needed to cross over. Along this hill I notice a path. You could see it clearly. - Where was a patrol? - One here, one there, one here, other there. But they were hidden, we could not see them. But, I said, wait a minute. We were waiting, waiting.. we were there an hour or more, in this restaurant. Maybe two hours. And I notice when patrol was changing and when they..the soldiers were … going out from their barracks, and came here so…they have to pass across this road, in column, one behind the other, from 12-15 guards. And they were going up the hill. When they came on..on the first change point, one soldier step out and the other guard step in to the guard point. They change all the way up, until they change all guards. Then they came back to the barrack. When I saw they are gone, and patrol came down. The first guard who use to be here, he did not went up with the others, he came back to the barrack. When I saw this, at this time I was sure there is no one left. So then I took my wife for her hand,..”Amelija”, I said, “Amelija”, lets go! Here and now, with me! Just not to bee see.. not to be heard or to do that!” Sorry, must not even fart! Slowly! There was acacia trees and a little bit densely to pass through over that canal. We passed through and came to the other side. On the other side were Italians. We went there… and we spoke Italian, me and..my passed away..wife. Wright away we join.. them, and they right away stopped us, how and what..and take us to the…police station, Italian. And say:”Where are you going?” Told them we are going to Trieste and do not want to come back, this is what we said. “Do you have a place to go in Trieste?… Good”. Wife´s family, she had three aunt and two.. uncle in Trieste. There they lived."

-" and…and..live…only there for a year. Finished.. finished this academy as sub..rank… sublieutenant, as officer school can not be higher than .. sublieutenant. This rank is already as officer rank, not subofficer as sergeant major, sergeant, lance sergeant. - When graduate school in Rijeka which occupation you have? In Rijeka when you ended school education? - That was tech…I mean… a construction technician.. - Construction technician? - Architectonic… profession - And then you left to Sarajevo? - Yes. After school, yes. Yes. - There you stay for a year? - When finished this school came back home again. Taken for a questioning. Before I was released from the army…till today here somewhere I have my military booklet. Put it here in…I took it and had it with me for 35 years, it is here, in the house! Have it…what happened? - What happened after you end military service in Sarajevo? - O yes.. then I came back home. When I came, I had a girlfriend so we use to date for 3-4 years, and then.. I finished this..school..yes, for officer school.. and the army demanded for me to activate in it but I .. no..did not want to, but they, voluntarily asked me to … activate and be..become..an active officer. I said no, I go home as I have other occupation, my school and, I said that I have a girl and I want to.. get married, so I went…home. So I done this my way. After, maybe…a year I got married, and then escaped. With my wife."